18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. Purchase Books/Media, News Feed Thank you, Greg, of course me here, the forever animal welfarists, and I’m always grateful (elated even, and love the passion in which you deliver these types of messages) when you draw animals into the message and into God’s Word and our theology, into our sight as that for which we also need to be daily mindful of!!! It’s always about our behavior and whether what we do or what we are partaking in looks like Christ or not. But others eat only vegetables because their faith is weak. The Lion and the Lamb both refer to Jesus Christ. Just as you have stated that – “when we realise what happened at the Fall and the dreadful effect this had upon the whole creation.”, I can also confidently reiterate Matthew 15:11 – “What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”. Slides 5 Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. 5:5). “I have never eaten anything that is not pure and ‘clean.’” 15 The voice spoke to him a second time. This page is about collecting evidence that shows prey and predator species interacting peacefully and non-violently with each other. This documentary was so hard to watch that i couldn’t even get half way through it. As persons of faith, responsible for the welfare of the planet, each other and all living things on it, as those made in the Image of God, more than ever today, it is urgent that we know where what we buy comes from, or we end up partaking in evils we most likely would not partake in if we saw it for ourselves, and we inadvertently violate the principles of love that the gospel message is all about. We do not believe it is possible to know the date when Jesus will return. “Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant.”, For me two sections of scripture come to mind whenever this subject pops up – Acts 10:9-16 and Romans 14:1-6. In my early childhood, I read a story in which a lamb and a lion were quenching their thirst in a small stream.Though the lion was located upstream, he accused the lamb of making the water dirty. I'm Chloe the interweb nymph, I made a Facebook profile for all my lovers out there so you can keep up with whats going on in my life, on and off cam 3 ! But as we all know though, some people really get into eating these kind of things and I suppose the heart of the matter is simply cultural and what’s available at the time. I think you’re so right about the fear thing. Email Newsletter 4 And I began to weep bitterly because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or to look into it. A lion was drinking water from a brook. Tiny Home Project Trump doesn’t know from niceties when he has a job to do or a deadline to meet. Just Google the infamous – “Hatchery Horrors: Video Shows No Mercy for Baby Chicks…” and we can see what they’re doing! Show Extended Summary The passage declares that out of the twelve tribe’s of Israel the one to receive authority would be from the tribe of Judah. And, thanks also for answering to Rev 11:18. We just show up at the shop or the grocers and buy it. With Tom Cruise, Meryl Streep, Robert Redford, Michael Peña. Romans 14:1-6 I think Greg’s interpretation that God will not actively punish unbelievers, but will more or less let the “natural consequences” of their choices catch up to them is interesting but raises red-flags in my gut. Hi Dave, no, I don’t think we will. The Lion represents his true power as King of Kings and Lord of lord’s. In fact, the power of God is best expressed by a slain lamb on Calvary. The men were on their journey and were approaching the city. The answer isn't as straightforward as you might think. Others think all days are the same. We do not believe it is possible to know the date when Jesus will return. Injuries sustained by two Army rangers behind enemy lines in Afghanistan set off a sequence of events involving a congressman, a journalist and a professor. In praying ‘Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven’ means we are to live now in as much as is within our power in ways that reflect that peaceable kingdom when all will be restored to perfect shalom again. Sermon Series Adoption Lions for Lambs is a 2007 American war drama film directed by Robert Redford about the connection between a platoon of United States soldiers in Afghanistan, a U.S. senator, a reporter, and a California college professor. Youth Development My father felt the same way. The Lion Will Lie Down With The Lamb. He chose the multiplication and consumption of fish to illustrate certain spiritual truths – if he had wanted to point out the unfortunate spiritual collapse of man in his current sinful laden condition characterized by a lust for animal flesh, then he might have intentionally fed the five thousand with just bread or more potently and symbolically eaten just grapes or fruit in front of his disciples instead as an object lesson, but he didn’t. But the lamb tried to refute the accusation that he was taking wafer from downstream. Transcript, 5 Then I saw in the right hand of the one seated on the throne a scroll written on the inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals; 2 and I saw a mighty angel proclaiming with a loud voice, “Who is worthy to open the scroll and break its seals?” 3 And no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or to look into it. Which might imply that as one reads further, it contains the names of those martyred and eternally forgiven on it – Rev 5: 9 & 10 (?). Sermon Discussion Groups If the lion has to devour the lamb, it can come up with several excuses to justify its action of killing. We should let love, mercy, kindness be the principles we live by toward each other and the animal kingdom. Arts Group Hide Extended Summary. Now, none of this is being said in any way shape or form to be argumentative or judgmental. Audio File Take a moment and look into the eyes of the animals you are eating, look at how they are being *raised. This seems to be one of those times. e.g., Dan. This expression of God goes back to the Old Testament, where the Israelites wanted their Messiah to defeat the nations that had conquered them and restore Israel. 8 When he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell before the Lamb, each holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. Newcomer's Class, CONNECT BY AGE I am not at that time a Christian, I was nothing so to speak. "Thank you for this ministry! This expression continues today, as people see in Revelation a Jesus who will come back with the sword and spread his vengeance. One of the most important things going on in Revelation was showing how God’s power works. The Lamb represents his coming as a humble God and being led to slaughter willingly for us. Sermon Roundtable Discussion As the Lion of Judah, He fulfills the prophecy of Genesis 49:9 and is the Messiah who would come from the tribe of Judah. When Jesus came to earth as fully man/fully God, he entered our created world order; it makes sense He would eat what is being eaten during the culture at that time in order to survive. What are your thoughts on Luke 24:41-43? 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Seasonal Partnerships It’s a massively important and foreboding vision, however it’s also vital to remember that it’s physical parallel on earth was represented by the “Mercy Seat” that was atop the Ark of the Covenant where the blood was sprinkled by the priest as a substitutionary animal sacrifice – i.e. See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals.”. We are all in this together! Symbolically, Jesus is the Lion from the tribe of Judah, the descendant of King David. Inspired designs on t-shirts, posters, stickers, home decor, and more by independent artists and designers from around the world. New Heavens/New Earth or Millennial Kingdom, we will eat meat of any kind? Those who don’t eat meat do it to honor the Lord. Required fields are marked *. “1 Accept those whose faith is weak. In the Ancient Near East. I think this kind of imagery and unbridled artistic license feeds into a hunger for “End-Times” sensationalism where beasts and devils supposedly rip and rampage during the Tribulation period. The answer isn't as straightforward as you might think. For those who want to use the scripture as justification to eat meat (I agree with M85, some things are most likely “an extension of God’s gracious condescension to a fallen world”), visit a factory farm, tune into an animal welfare organization such as Farm Sanctuary, read one of Andrew Linzey’s books (theologian, founder and director of the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics), watch an undercover video of what is happening in our world to food animals and animals produced for clothing or fur. Peter went up on the roof to pray. 111 likes. THE BABY BUFFALO WAS LOST FROM THE HERD, WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON. When Jesus came to earth as fully man/fully God, he entered our created world order; it makes sense He would eat what is being eaten during the culture at that time in order to survive. I believe in what they’re doing. When this truth is neglected or forgotten, trouble follows swiftly. So the question of mudding water on his part did not arise. It has given me hope, freedom and purpose I never could have imagined possible. Again, not passing any judgment, I’ve just begun to learn about consumerism and the more I do learn about it, the more urgent I sense the topic is for all of us to understand! He wanted something to eat. I do, however, believe that God will punish those who have chosen to reject Him at the time of His return. Kill and eat.” 14 “No, Lord! 5 Some people consider one day to be more holy than another. Personally, I fall between the two. Though these are all reluctantly permitted and tolerated by God (an extension of God’s gracious condescension to a fallen world), none represents God’s ultimate desire for his creatures. What’s the difference? One example: 2 Timothy 2:17-18. God’s covenant is will all flesh. More and more in the western culture and indeed in the world over, our core values are being derived from consumption rather than consumption from the core values of Christ. Myself and another Christian animal welfarist started a blog in hopes of bringing the message of Christ to animal welfare, as well as the message of animal welfare to the faith community. What do you say about Genesis 9:3? The Lord Jesus Is Called the Root of David (Rev. Lambs are small, young, and utterly defenseless. Dave, I am glad we can discuss it too, thank you! Acts 10:9-16 – I will continue to watch his series on Revelation and pray for discernment. Psm 24:1, ‘The earth is the Lord’s and all that is in it.’ We should take care of it, not exploit it, not cause harm or fear, pain or suffering to His creation. 9 It was about noon the next day. 180 Instances - Page 6 of 6 - Sort by Book Order Expand or Limit Your Search Results: All KJV books Old Testament only New Testament only Apocrypha only (?) Kids You either get stuff done or you’re road kill and it can happen in a New York minute. Discipleship School, WOODLAND HILLS To understand this application, we need to understand what was going on. Either way, the ferocious imagery employed in describing those creatures considered to be either literal or allegorical manifestations, is intimidating and a very clear warning not to attempt to approach the “Throne of Grace” by any other means except through the blood of Jesus. Congolese Refugees I scanned each person I saw for clothing that might hide a gun. ", 1740 Van Dyke St. Therefore, the message of Revelation is not only to believe in this revelation of a lamb-like God but to follow that lamb regardless of the cost. That is a confirmation of the fulfillment of the prophecy given in the Old Testament about the coming of the Messiah from Judah’s tribe. Like you I struggled to read Revelation for years, always seeing miss-speculation and Jesus so contradictory to the Jesus of the gospels. In order for God to be just and holy, He has to give punishment where punishment is due. He is both the conquering Lion of the tribe of Judah and the Lamb who was slain. Back then, the way food was raised was totally different than today. I will not!” Peter replied. Those who eat meat do it to honor the Lord. Search Sermons Women's Book Club Calendar of Events You see, it is not about whether we get to eat animals or not! The lion accused that the lamb was disturbing him by mudding water. There are dozens of other even more vile examples of man’s abuse of the “created order” at the touch of a button. 651-487-0001 * Paul McCartney said “If slaughterhouses had glass walls, we would all be vegetarian.” CAFO’s should have glass walls, we’d be vegetarian before they made it to slaughter….. Paul tells us to “put on love above all else.” Col 3:14. The two are used comparatively quite often, as in "March comes in like a lion, and out like a lamb." Hollywood has many movies depicting disasters, viruses, and other ways that the world might end. 6 Those who think one day is special do it to honor the Lord. If it reared up against me, I would grab it by its fur, strike it down, and kill it.… How many lions does it take to kill a lamb? It was a lion David killed it was the Lion that took his sheep. I looked and saw a lion and looked again and saw a sheep (not a lamb but a more so a ram). Come Up Here, I Want to Show You Something | mutteringheart, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgMWqAuQDKs. This also anticipates his second coming as the Lion. 7th-12th Grade The Lion’s Share. They also give thanks to God. How many lions does it take to kill a lamb? I do support organizations such as the RSPCA and others. The almighty is the Lion of Judah just as aslan in the the Chronicle s of Narnia portrayed him the lamb is Christ the last sacrifice, the blood of the lamb. I’m not sure though that anything our Lord did should be considered “irrelevant” regardless of the zeitgeist in that particular culture. There are times throughout history where we see an apocalyptic fever that runs amok. "LION AND THE LAMB" in the KJV Bible. It also had reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. Lauren. THANK YOU!!! Search by topic, keyword, speaker, series or year! Adam and Eve had the perfect garden and were vegans. Thank you for teaching about the misconception on the rapture. And more so the memory of this dream comes to my mind. It has transformed my life in some really radical ways. Christ took that punishment for those who place their faith in Him, and those who chose not to trust Christ are without excuse (Romans 1). As an animal welfarist, I’ve seen my fair share; I can no longer watch the videos, but I do stay informed as to what is happening in the world of animals through various sources like “Farm Sanctuary,” “Mercy For Animals” and others. How many lions does it take to kill a lamb? There are too many Christians that have been mislead on this subject and many more. I personally find eating something like a “Dolphin” for example, a pretty mean thing to do, but for many Japanese, it’s quite a normal delicacy. While the meal was being prepared, Peter had a vision. Our culture is fixated on things that might end our existence. Video File Not, at least, according to game theory. Recent Services God bless your day, may His hand be upon you; WHC, you and all the leadership are in my prayers daily. Or somehting like that. After the flood things were obviously different; why else would God have told Noah to eat meat? THIS VIDEO WAS NOT STAGED. The word Apocalypse comes from apocalyptic literature, but over time, the meaning of apocalypse has changed and come to meant more about the end of the world than a revealing. The consistent witness of the New Testament is that the exalted Lord remains the crucified Jesus (John 20:26-29; Galatians 2:19-20). However, in this sermon, Greg shows us how God’s power is best expressed by a sacrificial lamb, and it will continue to be expressed that way in the future. This way of reading Revelation freed me from a lot of fear; so I am grateful that you are sharing these insight, even if unpopular, with others. "LION AND THE LAMB" in the KJV Bible. Job Skills Program I can recall looking at the procession as there was a light blue banner being held. It’s all nonstop bare fisted brawl where often you get battered as badly as the guy you’re pummeling. Either way, it’s led to a frightening milieu artistic representations over the years. I haven’t forgotten that God is the same yesterday, today & tomorrow (forever), and I do not view it as a contradiction of character for God to punish sin as He is holy. All Rights Reserved. 0 0. Not that we get legalistic. It shows that only one has the character to show God’s power in its true form, and it is the slain lamb. These same creatures or very similar ones, pop up in Ezekiel’s, as well as Isaiah’s visions with slight variations. Get our Mobile App Saying this, the lion attacked the lamb and killed him. You are just a boy, and he has been a warrior from his youth.” 34 David replied, “Your servant has been tending his father’s sheep, and whenever a lion or a bear came and carried off a lamb from the flock, 35 I went after it, struck it down, and delivered the lamb from its mouth. Killing is an act of violence. 7 He went and took the scroll from the right hand of the one who was seated on the throne. The answer isn’t as straightforward as you might think. Genesis 49:9 uses the analogy of a lion’s cub. Young Adults (18-20s) Are you a lion or a lamb? 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servants? Some years ago I had a very vivid techni-colour dream (?) 16 This happened three times. God has accepted them. Emergency Assistance At the same time, a lamb was also taking water from the downstream of the same brook. The Sabbath includes animals, and every 7 years the land is supposed to rest!! Like a vampire and human. There is only one perfect Human and perfect Lord and that is Jesus Christ. email@example.com. These two creatures are used to illustrate something about the nature of Jesus Christ. 10 He became hungry. St. Paul, MN 55109 Lion or lamb, your choice. …would like to add one tiny little thing about food choices. Lv 4. 11 He saw heaven open up. I guess what I’m trying to get at is that what Paul was saying all along in these pages was really about doing what is loving and ethical. Directed by Robert Redford. Worship Set Lists I guess I’ve come to land on believing it really doesn’t matter if He was or wasn’t vegetarian (though I believe He very well could have been). I am in complete agreement with you that so much of the meatpacking & processing industry today and in the past, is saturated with grotesque and horrific practices. Farming is no longer done in a fashion that is merciful. People want God to be a roaring lion that devours our enemies. Moral of the story: ‘Any excuse is good enough for a wicked for a wicked person.’, Collection Centre of Standard Chartered Bank, Drugs Revolution and Development of Penicillin. There he saw something that looked like a large sheet. I am a Christian who is not perfect which no one is perfect. But pretty much it means, that the lion should be eating the lamb instead of falling in love with it. I’m just wondering why it is that Pastor Boyd, a bible believing Christian, won’t call out the false teachers of his day by name as did the apostle Paul? Kids Funerals Our latest COVID updates are available here >, Welcome to Woodland It was only several years ago that I started to read Revelation in more 1st century, local terms that I began to understand the images and through them rediscover the Jesus of the gospels. The Lion and the Lamb are descriptions of two aspects of the nature of Christ. Scripture tells us again and again that we are to be merciful and kind to animals, it is everywhere in scripture. They say when the lion and lamb live together in harmony is when there will be peace. For anyone who cares the quote from “Well-Known Pastor Guy” is the pastor of Mars Hill Seattle Calvinist Mega-Church, Mark Driscoll, from an article from the August 28, 2007 edition of Relevant Magazine. Awesome. They give thanks to God. Not a God who exacts vengeance with a sword. More than ever today, we urgently need to look at the times we live in to determine whether something is right for us to do or not, especially when it comes to food and consumerism in general. Other On-Site Churches, SERMONS The images of the lion and the lamb are well known in the bible. And people who don’t eat everything must not judge those who do. I believe more than ever, we are being called to wake up to what is happening all around us in our world today, to be aware of the origins of what we are buying, how it is made, produced, etc. The scriptural references I cited above – Acts 10:9-16, Romans 14:1-16, Luke 24:41-43 & John 21:1-14 were not thrown together to be mockish or challenging to your passionate and strong convictions about the abuse and hyper-commodification animals in todays world. As a result, he was about how to accomplish his evil design. High quality Lion And Lamb gifts and merchandise. Jesus paid the price in blood for us which no man could have ever done. It seems that those judgments can’t be poured out unless he’s first been victorious for us. Counseling Classes At the touch of a button one can find them. At last, he hit upon a plan. There are those circles that believe Jesus was a vegetarian despite what we read in scripture; there are those that believe what was meant by “meat” in scripture was a word for “food” “or sustenance” not meaning animal flesh. On the contrary, the lamb replied that it was the lion who was mudding water for him (lamb) as he was drinking water from upstream. It was a hot summer day. We must trust in the power of the lamb and not the lion. “Do not say anything is not pure that God has made ‘clean,’” it said. As a result, he was about how to accomplish his evil design. Chloe Lamb. By the way, Edward is the lion and Bella is the lamb. What can this mean, It is driving me crazy. I heard once that God is the perfect balance of love and justice, and that people tend to err one direction or the other. Furthermore, as a friendly rebuke, the apostle Paul wasn’t afraid to call out by name the false teachers of his day. It was being let down to earth by its four corners. Lamb & Lion Ministries was established for the purpose of proclaiming the soon return of Jesus. Missions, LEARN The message is that we should, in all times, refuse to conform to our Babylon. December 2, 2020 December 1, 2020 | Stuart France “Tell me,” said Joshua, “why is that person carrying a lamb to the city ?” Judas Thomas said, “So that he may kill it and eat it.” Joshua said, “Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy. I think, as the sermon says (Greg’s message in this sermon about this subject is excellent, and there is great need for more leadership like this in our Christian circles), we have a choice and we should question whether we are showing mercy, kindness or justice (Micah 6:8) by what we eat in today’s world; and whether by doing so, we are promoting God’s Peaceable Kingdom. It's because they draw a stark contrast to each other. 6 Then I saw between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders a Lamb standing as if it had been slaughtered, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. When it comes to meat, I do my level best to eat as little red meat as possible and go “Free-Range” and “Grass-fed” whenever I have the choice. A pre-fall state of non-violence and perfect harmony between us and creation is what God intended, and what He intends to return us to one day. But even in spite of that, I think what Paul was trying to get at is that we should make the ethical and loving choices, choices that honor each other as to not “trip up your brother.” “Let’s not argue about these things but do what it takes so that your brother feels loved by you.” Today, making the ethical and loving choices may look much different than it did then in regards to the same subject matter, because today, food for example is not raised or delivered in the same way it was then, and most certainly is not done in an ethical or loving way. 3 People who eat everything must not look down on those who do not. All orders are custom made and most ship worldwide within 24 hours. We put the gospel message in jeopardy when we do not understand consumerism. And if one becomes hungry enough, well unfortunately almost anything goes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgMWqAuQDKs, Your email address will not be published. We would love your prayer, if you feel the Lord lead you to such for us, thanks. Now these days I am coming closer to Christianity. We live in a world today where most everything we ‘consume’ has been brought to us by someone else. 16K likes. Seems pretty damn simple, lions do the eating, lambs get eaten. I recently sat at dinner with my girl in a trendy place in the Tulsa area and looked around. Don’t judge them where you have differences of opinion. Christ is of course, our substitute and that’s why it says in Hebrews 9:12 –, “But by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.”, That’s why the blood soaked Lamb is the only one worthy to open those seals on The Scroll. We cannot further the kingdom this way! Podcast (sermons only), OTHER RESOURCES : «Theological Animal». In order to understand the book of Revelation, we need to understand the letter and who it was written to. On a practical note: There is always going to be a debate in this area I think…as much as I wish it weren’t so at times and the peaceable kingdom were already here…for the sake of those who are tortured, not for mine.
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